Tuesday, May 26, 2009
My favorite photo
From the Prop 8 protests outside of the Supreme Court building in San Francisco.

Via Towleroad taken by Brian and Brandon

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Thursday, March 05, 2009
Prop 8 arguments
9:27 a.m.

I'm listening to Prop 8 arguments live. It's really rough. I'm glad I'm not a lawyer. The justices are giving the lawyers a hell of a time. They are comparing the taking away of marriage rights to the restoration of the death penalty and how can the death penalty be reinstated by initiative, which is taking away the fundamental right to life, then why can't the right to marriage be taken away by initiative.

9:37 a.m.

Mr. Morocco - The argument right now is the difference between a revision and an amendment. They are basically asking this lawyer to define the difference within the context of the California constitution.

9:44 a.m.

"This is an initiative that altered fundamental rights." I wish I could see the justices. This female justice is certainly on our side. Anyone knows who it is? (btw - Justice Corrigan)


The court went beyond the immediate issue of marriage nomenclature during the marriage cases arguments last May in making gays and lesbians a protected class.

Now they are talking about civil unions vs. marriage (religious). His argument is, if the state is going to be in the marriage business, do it equally, if not equal, then get out of the marriage business and everyone in the state should have civil unions.

9:44 a.m.

My god. I thought the difference between revision and amendment was codified. Apparently not. Hmmm. Perhaps this should be....y'think?

9:51 a.m.

Arguments are around bussing (which I have an issue with in itself) but the lawyer is arguing that the bussing initiative was a remedy, which 8 was not a remedy. The lawyer is now arguing pre-Perez (miscegnation) which would argue that domestic partnerships between mixed race couples and marriage between same-race couples.

9:55 a.m.

Maude I love this lawyer. He's really clear and really confident.

9:57 a.m.

Interestingly, Justice Kennard is being really tough but she voted with the majority in Marriage Cases and Corrigan is being really complimentary but voted against.

10:01 a.m.

Stewart (lawyer) up.

10:04 a.m.

OK, now they are talking about the invalidation of existing marriages and the lawyer is arguing that this is vague and it needs to be unequivocably clear.

The argument is now that voters did not know that this amendment would invalidate previously granted marriages. I wonder if that, in itself, would invalidate or overturn prop 8.

10:13 a.m.

Currently they are recovering the issues of constitutional and governmental structure and how Prop 8 either changed the structure of government or not. It's a complicated argument - they are really talking case law right now.

Oh, and apparently there were 63 amicus briefs.

10:19 a.m.

Chris Kruger (asst. atty. gen. for Jerry Brown) is arguing that Prop 8 is unconstitutional but I believe he is disagreeing with the other anti-Prop 8 lawyers that it is not an amendment. Not sure. Yep. He is disagreeing with his own side but his argument is that it is unconstitutional. His argument is very confusing and he doesn't seem clear yet.

10:25 a.m.

He is arguing that under Marriage Cases, they made the rights of gay men and lesbians to marry as an inalienable right. And now the death penalty has come up again whether the right to life and the right against cruel and unusual punishment (which has been changed through the initiative process) is equal to the right to marry.

10:34 a.m.

He does not seem to know his own arguments. Grrrr. He is really unprepared!

10:35 a.m.

STOP SAYING "y'know"!!!!! Wow. One of the justices just withdrew her question because the atty. didn't get it. OMG he is not doing us any favors.

10:40 a.m.

OK - this is I think the main point which is: why can the court change the people's will? And the breadth of the power of the people is not under discussion at the court at this moment. (Kannard)

10:43 a.m.
Is this a one way street? Does the same standard apply -- could the right be expanded and rescinded by the same process?

How do we know what an inalienable right is? and would anything that could be framed as an inalienable right not be subject to the people's right to initiative?

10:50 a.m.

When is his time up??? Oh, thank Maude. His time is up.

10:53 a.m.

Kenneth Starr is up. He is now arguing that amending the constitution an inalienable right which the court agrees with. They are asking him to now explain why this is not a revision. Ken Starr's voice is creeping me out. He sounds a bit like Bobby Jindal with the sing-songyness.

11:02 a.m.
He is arguing that any inalienable right can be rescinded by an appropriately worded and fully informed amendment.

If the people decide to make a change that is "unwise" they have that right without review by another branch of government. So he's basically saying that the right to free speech and the right to oh, property, could be rescinded even if it was idiotic. Of course it would go to SCOTUS and be "dead on arrival" but they have the right to make bad laws.

11:11 a.m.

"Each of us is a minority of one." Starr. Oh, the privilege.

11:12 a.m.

"We are asking this court to stay the jurisprudential course."

11:15 a.m.

If flattery gets you any prizes, Ken Starr FTW.

11:19 a.m.

What is Marriage has now come up and was brought up by K.Starr. I'm a little surprised that he brought it up. I'm also a little surprised that he referred to the U.K. as "her majesty's kingdom".
He also mentions that the traditional definition crosses all time and place. Um. No.

11:24 a.m.

Interesting, Ken Starr does not believe that Prop 8 invalidates the marriages (18,000) but that those relationships become unrecognized by the state, however, for instance, MA would recognize those marriages. Hmmm.

11:28 a.m.

Wow!!! This was a good one. Ken Starr argued that there was "a swirl of uncertainty when those couples got married" however one of the justices then argued that the court validated marriage and should people now not trust the court when it makes a ruling?

11:35 a.m.

"why wasn't there an express retroactivity clause (in Prop 8)?" Justice believes it was political strategy!

11:37 a.m.

Could he possibly be more condescending? "Fair point."

11:46 a.m.

The court ran out of questions for Starr so now we're back to Shannon Minter for rebuttal.

11:48 a.m.

Prop 8 took away the label of marriage and it's applicability to gay and lesbian couples. It left intact the designation of special class according to Kennard. "Is it still your view that the sky has fallen in?" way to condescend!

11:50 a.m.

Gay and lesbian couples would have the burden of coming to the initiative process as constitutional outsiders. - Minter

11:53 a.m.

Morrocco is up. Gender is a suspect class according to this court. Hypothetical - females on the court are now commissioners. It's about nomenclature - passes. Would this pass muster? Kennard moves the discussion to retroactivity. I think he was going toward the argument of gender discrimination on the marriage contract when he was cut off by Kennard.

11:59 a.m.

Now up - Stewart. She's good. I think she's got a really good point here. She is arguing that Starr's premise is fundamentally flawed - that the proposition process should not allow discrimination.

12:08 p.m.
Eesh. It doesn't look like Justice Kennard is on our side for this one.

12:08 p.m.

Initiative process is a limited power and this court has always had the responsibility to determine where that line falls. - Stewart.

12:11 p.m.

She's really bringing it back around to the revision vs. amendment issue.

12:13 ADJOURNED.

Now we wait.

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Wednesday, December 10, 2008
Urban Outfitters/Anthropologie SUCK redux
I tried and tried. I love these two stores and yet ever since CEO Richard Hayne donated to Rick (gays = bestiality and pedophilia) Santorum, I can't shop there. Won't.

But honestly, I haven't convinced many people to follow. Despite them ripping off designs from indie designers.

Now, can I have your attention.

Urban Outfitters, home of Jesus is My Homeboy and Reefer Madness t-shirts has stopped selling the I Support Same Sex Marriage t-shirt. Hmmm. So, I guess to them, pot is cool but support for two guys or girls getting married is an unacceptable message.

So I ask you, once again, no matter how cute something is, could you please, please stop shopping at these stores?


Thanks!

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Friday, November 14, 2008
To my Peeps in the AZ
Here are Roland Spongberg's Arizona El Pollo Loco Locations!!! Keep it up!

El Pollo Loco #3566 5130 S. McClintock. Tempe, AZ 85282 (480) 557-5555

El Pollo Loco #3561 5810 W. Bell Road. Glendale, AZ 85308 (602) 268-6611

El Pollo Loco #3567 3781 W. Ina. Marana, AZ 85741 (520) 572-0010

El Pollo Loco #3573 820 N. 54th St. Chandler, AZ 85226 (480) 763-0400

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Thursday, November 13, 2008
Proposition 8 Allies
So, in all fairness, I've been giving a lot of information about those who worked against equality and I'd like to remedy that a bit.

Here are some of the companies that we should be supporting with our equality-loving $$$$

Puma Springs Vineyard looks like my kind of place and I don't even drink! Barbara and Tony, the straight owners donated $35,500 to the NO on 8 campaign. I think I might just raise a glass to them!!! If you're planning a wine tour - I'd spend time with this lovely couple (BTW - they rent sheep to weed the vineyards!!!)

GreenDirt Landscape Design made a contribution of $11,500 - how did Mr. Wolk know I was looking for a landscape designer? The next time you are, have I got a guy for you!!!

Aanraku Glass Studios sells gorgeous materials for art lovers and stained glass artists alike. They donated $1001!

Dolby Laboratories - Ray and Dagmar Dolby have been allies from the way back. They donated $135,000 - yes. You read that right. Thanks Dolbys!!! I'm not sure how to support them but you can smile when you see that Dolby Surround logo!!!

You can also geek out to Star Wars as Mr. Lucas and LucasFilm donated $100,000.

Throw on your 501s as Levi Strauss - also a longtime supporter donated $25,000. And head to Circus Disco (!) where owner Eugene La Pietra donated $100,000! Hopefully the DJ be playing Fall Out Boy who donated $50,000! If not, you can put their new single on your Apple iPod as Apple donated $100,000 as well!


If you know of any other allies I should be noting - please leave in comments!

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Civil Rights and Boycotts
I feel the need to make some points.

1. Free speech:

Free speech is our right in this country. The 52% of Californians who voted yes on 8 had every right to do that were within their rights to cast a vote given that the amendment was legally placed on the ballot. I don't deny that they have this right, nor do I wish for that right to be taken away from them. The legality of the amendment in itself is the issue here.

I also have the right to not economically participate in the economy that gave them the money to win that vote. In addition, their right to boycott any companies that spent money on the No on 8 side is free to them. In fact, here's a link. Feel free to boycott all Apple products, throw away your Levi's, all films by Brad Pitt. I am entirely serious. Our money is our vote as is yours.

Meanwhile, I will continue to boycott the two companies that affect me, El Pollo Loco (those owned by WKS Restaurant Corp.), the Manchester Hotels and HiTorque publications.

2. Separate but equal

From a comment on Eater L.A.

"Even Elton John stated and rightly so that you have the same rights under a civil union as you do under marriage. Perhaps there are some nuances-not a bid [sic] deal. Why do you want marriage so badly--why?? Why do you so badly need the approval of society[?]"
I've been reading a lot of this in comments on posts about Prop 8. Usually the comments involve references to recruiting children, assholes, limp wrists and purses. This comment did, I just chose to snip those parts out. I know I'm mostly preaching to a choir here, but I have to point out that the same rights are actually not granted under a civil union. Also, the approval of society is not important. If it was, marching in the streets wouldn't be the way to get it. Conforming would be -- and no one is doing that. What queers want is not to conform but to have EQUAL RIGHTS. No more. No less.

Here's what happens when we're not granted EQUALITY. Please read this first hand account.

Also, just because Elton says something, doesn't mean it is so. He's a song writer. He's great at raising money to fight HIV. He may not be the most politically savvy or best spokesperson for teh gayz.

Just sayin'.

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Wednesday, November 12, 2008
Oh, no she didn't
Long ago, when I frequented El Coyote (mid-90's), I used to say it was the only restaurant in L.A. that you could flip over your plate and all the food would stay put. I haven't been in about 10 years and so my boycott won't amount to much, but if you go...don't.

Marjorie Christoffersen, part owner and manager of El Coyote gave $100 to Yes on 8 group ProtectMarriage.com.

She now says she regrets her decision.

Ms. Christoffersen said on one blog advocating a boycott of El Coyote.

I love you guys, I would never do anything to hurt you, I wish I hadn't done it.
So do I. But now there is a call to boycott the restaurant, which has been owned by a branch of Marjorie's family since it opened in 1931. To try to make nice, Marjorie says that she's holding "an open breakfast Wednesday at 11am to speak to the community."

Brunch started about 15 minutes ago. Anyone there to make nice?

Via Huffington Post

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An Eye for An Eye
I believe strongly in Gandhi's quote, "An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind." However, when Gandhi said that quote, he was talking about his practice of Satyagraha or nonviolent resistance which is specifically what this movement is practicing. We are, in fact, by boycotting, "achieving socio-political goals through symbolic protests, civil disobedience, economic or political noncooperation, and other methods, without using violence.

Do not lecture to me about Gandhi if you have no idea what he advocated.

BTW - it looks like WKS only owns Corner Bakeries in Arizona and coming to Utah (of course).

More to come about protests and boycotts. Of course.

By the way, there's a huge protest tonight at the Mormon Temple in NYC. If you're on that side of the country, get out there and hold a sign. In addition, there's another protest this afternoon at the Mormon Temple at Santa Monica and Selby.
What:           PROTEST & RALLY against the Mormon Temple (W. LA) Over the
Church's Backing and Financial Support of Proposition #8
When: Wednesday, November 12th
5:00pm - 7:00pm
Where: Mormon Temple (Los Angeles California Temple of the Mormon
Church)
10777 Santa Monica Blvd. @ Overland
West Los Angeles, CA 90025
Who: endH8now organizers, protesters and community leaders
CONTACT: Michael Sanchez, endH8now
310-940-6886
axistalent@gmail.com


www.endH8now.com

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Monday, November 10, 2008
TNNA and Proposition 8
This winter, The National NeedleArts Association will be holding its Winter 2009 Trade Show at the Manchester Grand Hyatt in San Diego. I won't be attending and I'll be letting TNNA know the reason.

Developer Doug Manchester has given significant financial support to Proposition 8. Manchester’s $125,000 donation has prompted activists to boycott the Manchester Grand Hyatt, the Grand Del Mar and the Manchester-owned San Diego Marriott Hotel and Marina. So far, the San Diego County retirement board and the Association of American Law Schools have canceled events at the Manchester Hyatt.

Sorry, TNNA - I'm not spending one dime to support Doug Manchester.

If you want to send a message to TNNA - let them know why here:

Address: 1100-H Brandywine Blvd.
Zanesville, OH 43701
Phone: 800-889-8662
Fax: 740-452-2552
Email: TNNA.info@Offinger.com



(This man's money was used to rob us of our civil rights.)

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Sunday, November 09, 2008
El Pollo Loco/Proposition 8
The franchise owner of the following El Pollo Locos in California donated money in support of Proposition 8. As one of my stand-by restaurants for any occasion, I will be boycotting the following locations owned by WKS Restaurant Corporation, owned by Roland Spongberg.

Also -- If anyone out there knows someone at either CSULA or CSULB, there are Pollo Locos on those campuses owned by WKS. The campus communities should be made aware.


(by Area Code)

(818)
El Pollo Loco #3525 16940 Nordhoff St. Northridge, CA 91343-3526 (818) 895-1680
El Pollo Loco #3532 10651 Balboa Blvd. Granada Hills, CA 91344 phone: (818) 831-4044
El Pollo Loco #3467 4544 Saugus Ave. Sherman Oaks, CA 91403 (818) 990-7655

(323)
El Pollo Loco #3526 3925 Sunset Blvd. Los Angeles, CA 90029(323) 665-1333
El Pollo Loco #3504 5151 State University Dr. CSULA Golden Eagle Bldg. Los Angeles, CA 90032 (323) 343-6728
El Pollo Loco #3507 1360 W. Imperial Hwy. Los Angeles, CA 90029 (323) 757-8229
El Pollo Loco #3528 6929 Eastern Av. Bell Gardens, CA 90201

(310)
El Pollo Loco #3531 3008 Sepulveda Blvd. W. Los Angeles, CA 90034 (310) 444-0010
El Pollo Loco #3461 7639 Garvey Ave. Rosemead, CA 91770 (626) 307-4394


(562)
El Pollo Loco #3457 2727 Carson St. Lakewood, CA 90712 (562) 496-1664
El Pollo Loco #3455 1212 S. Bellflower Blvd. CSULB-Student Union Bldg. Long Beach, CA 90804 (562) 985-2361
El Pollo Loco #3448 16707 Pioneer Blvd. Artesia, CA 90701 (562) 924-6918
El Pollo Loco #3392 2200 Clark Ave. Long Beach, CA 90815 (562) 494-9691
El Pollo Loco #3322 3502 Cerritos Ave. Los Alamitos, CA 90720 (562) 626-8388
El Pollo Loco #3545 3425 E. Anaheim St. Long Beach, CA 90804 (562) 494-1343
El Pollo Loco #3488 11601 Carson St. Lakewood, CA 90712 (562) 924-2250

(951)
El Pollo Loco #3494 40468 Murrieta Hot Springs Rd. Murrieta, CA 92562 (951) 304-7082
El Pollo Loco #3521 32451 State Hwy 79. Temecula, CA 92592 (951)302-2611
El Pollo Loco #3495 117 W. Nuevo Road. Perris, CA 92571 (951) 943-4626
El Pollo Loco #3477 31550 Grape St. Lake Elsinore, CA 92532 (951) 245-1542

(949)
El Pollo Loco #3458 2232 S. Bristol St. Newport Beach, CA 92660 (949) 474-2120
El Pollo Loco #3490 21212 Bake Pkwy. Lake Forest, CA 92630 (949) 454-8312

(714)
El Pollo Loco #3453 120 No. Euclid. Fullerton, CA 92832

(661)
El Pollo Loco #3371 8200 Stockdale Hwy. Bakersfield, CA 93311 (661) 831-9443
El Pollo Loco #3476 2000 White Lane. Bakersfield, CA 93304 (661) 396-7639
El Pollo Loco #3475 3701 California Ave. Bakersfield, CA 93309 (661) 322-4887

(909)
El Pollo Loco #3506 1090 S. Mt. Vernon. Colton, CA 92324 (909) 777-0045

(858)
El Pollo Loco #3565 4330 Genessee Ave. San Diego, CA 92117 (858) 278-0355
El Pollo Loco #3564 8349 Mira Mesa Blvd. San Diego, CA 92126 (858) 578-7553

(619)
El Pollo Loco #3563 3444 Midway Dr. San Diego, CA 92110 (619) 523-9904
El Pollo Loco #3562 494 Broadway. El Cajon, CA 92021 (619) 588-6034

And WKS owns this Denny's in Fontana
Denny's 17009 Valley Blvd. Fontana, CA 92335 (909) 822-8550

ETA: This is a complete list of all of the California El Pollo Locos and Dennys owned by WKS.
Also, you can verify that Roland Spongberg (or anyone else) has donated in support of (or against) Prop 8 here.

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Friday, November 07, 2008
Laguna Beach Rally against Prop 8
Outraged by the passage of Prop 8, our community and our allies are fighting back. As some of our best legal minds have filed three separate lawsuits with the California Supreme Court, tens of thousands of outraged residents are organizing throughout California with one purpose and resolve. We MUST show the world that we will not have our rights voted away by the forces of homophobia and bigotry! This injustice cannot stand!!

We call on all who believe in Equality for All to head for Laguna Beach Saturday evening, Nov 8, for a Rally and March. We will gather at 5:30pm at Laguna Beach City Hall, 505 Forest Ave., Laguna Beach CA 92651. From this location we will march to Main Beach where we will hold a Rally and Candlelight (or flashlight) Vigil before returning to City Hall.

We urge everyone to arrive early and park in the Act V Parking Lot @ 1900 Laguna Canyon Road (About 1 mile from PCH on Laguna Canyon Rd.) Shuttle busses will be running every 15 mins., beginning at 4:30pm until 10pm. After this lot fills up you can park on Laguna Canyon Rd. (bring quarters). No On Prop 8 and hand made signs, American, Rainbow and California flags, candles and whistles. Bring a flashlight, since it may be too windy for candles. DRESS for a cool evening.

Please forward this e-mail to your lists with requests to do the same!!

Audrey Prosser
Harvey Liss
Jeff LeTourneau
No On Prop 8 OC

We urgently need up to 25 volunteer monitors to help insure a safe and peaceful event. If you can volunteer, please respond to this e-mail and plan to arrive at 4:30 PM for training.

Hat tip to Lizard OC

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Thursday, November 06, 2008
Prop 8 update #2
  • Los Angeles regretfully has started denying applications to same sex couples immediately as required
  • So, last night the queers were angry and took to the streets. 7 arrested in Hollywood, mostly peaceful everywhere else.
  • Protest today in front of the Mormon Temple on Santa Monica Blvd. at 2 p.m. Lorri Jean will be speaking.
      • WHAT: Leading supporters of marriage equality will hold a news conference in front of the Los Angeles Mormon Temple in response to the Mormon church’s leading role in the deceptive advertising campaign for Proposition 8. At the urging of church President Thomas Monson, Mormons contributed more than $15 million to fund the initiative which would repeal the right of same-sex couples to marry.
        WHEN: Thursday, Nov. 6, 2 p.m.
        WHO: Speakers include: Lorri L. Jean, CEO, L.A. Gay & Lesbian Center, Religious and community leaders
        WHERE: Los Angeles Mormon Temple, Corner of Selby Ave. and Santa Monica Blvd. Westwood, California 90025
  • The Christian Right is monitoring blogs for violent comments. You are forewarned.
  • Per KLIV: Santa Clara County is joining the city of Los Angeles and San Francisco County in a legal challenge to Proposition 8, the gay marriage ban passed by voters Tuesday.

    County Counsel Ann Ravel says the county is challenging Prop 8 because it would limit the rights of certain residents by not letting gay couples marry. Because the County Clerk is required to issue marriages, the County has an interest in making certain all its citizens are treated equally.

    Ravel says there is only one legal way to amend the California Constitution to ban gay marriage. The legislature needs to pass a revision when a fundamental right is involved. That would then go to the public for a vote

5,387, 939 votes for Prop 8
4,883,460 votes against

difference of 504,479 votes 100% of precincts reporting.

I'm going to keep updating with everything I learn.

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